tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post1577099755772829001..comments2023-10-15T23:55:58.457+08:00Comments on THE GRIN WITHOUT A CAT: banzai cathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11163422172627686782noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-53084508576408919582007-08-14T18:19:00.000+08:002007-08-14T18:19:00.000+08:00Yeah I did remember Trese but I figured it's a bit...Yeah I did remember Trese but I figured it's a bit on the modern side. Likewise, there's also the specfic/supernatural side to their stories. Am wondering if we have any other precursors to the form that sticks to the realist as well (which kyu prefers).banzai cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11163422172627686782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-17523603461626100322007-08-14T12:42:00.000+08:002007-08-14T12:42:00.000+08:00If memory serves, what little straightforward dete...If memory serves, what little straightforward detective fiction the <I>komiks</I> dabbled in back in the day were mostly hommages to the Chandler/Hammett school. Not much cultural resonance and not very memorable. There hasn't been a glut of that in any form of fiction nor movies since. WI'm not sure if we really have a tradition of fictional detectives in any platform the way the US and Japan dododo dayaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08287196617019639716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-79997245818315202202007-08-13T13:15:00.000+08:002007-08-13T13:15:00.000+08:00aaagh, sorry for the delay. bloody work stuff. tho...aaagh, sorry for the delay. bloody work stuff. though one thing nice about this place is all the people who know more than I do. ;-)<BR/><BR/>dodo: thanks for the heads-up on the local noir movies. ironically, I can see why quentin tarantino is so cool on filipino movies. and good note on the tagalog komiks serial, I completely forgot about them. (which is a shame since I used to read a lot of banzai cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11163422172627686782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-84793003020126634682007-08-10T23:20:00.000+08:002007-08-10T23:20:00.000+08:00ayen: our 'vigilante fiction' isn't 'detective fi...ayen: our 'vigilante fiction' isn't 'detective fiction', no, and it was never meant to be implied as such. it is, however, 'crime fiction'. i would propose that 'subsets', in terms of 'literary genres', can be thought of as the manner in which a particular umbrella or bracket set (in this case, the more inclusive concept of 'crime fiction') is expressed. the relevant question, therefore, skinnyblackcladdinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01836363711931295356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-74372511563925830342007-08-10T07:10:00.000+08:002007-08-10T07:10:00.000+08:00Actually I was already thinking that crime fiction...Actually I was already thinking that crime fiction was present in other mediums (TV, film, komiks) but I think the question is, whatever happened to it in fiction. (And it's not like we have a shortage of action movies.)Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02773038335190893557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-21541865608875150752007-08-10T02:56:00.000+08:002007-08-10T02:56:00.000+08:00all right, 'crime fiction' is a larger umbrella th...all right, 'crime fiction' is a larger umbrella that subsumes detective fiction. so fh batacan's novel is crime fiction, in that the disequilibrium in the story happens to be a crime (it may have been an inner discontent, a broken heart, separation anxiety, etc. but that might not have the aspect of needing the state's police intervention, and a subsequent expectation of justice.) <BR/><BR/>herAyenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15295308173652385536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-51702011719914395782007-08-09T18:11:00.000+08:002007-08-09T18:11:00.000+08:00Actually if we talk about movies, there's a very s...Actually if we talk about movies, there's a very strong noir element in many local movies,particularly from the 70s. In many ways, Gerry De Leon's <B>48 Hours</B>, Mike De Leon's <B>Kisapmata</B>, Lino Brocka's <B>Angela Markado</B> , Peque Gallaga's <B>Unfaithful Wife</B> and even Carlo Caparas' utterly terrible <B>Massacre</B> movies right up to Mario Cornejo's <B>Big Time</B> are ostensibly ofdodo dayaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08287196617019639716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6501457.post-19552472041324186142007-08-09T18:07:00.000+08:002007-08-09T18:07:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.dodo dayaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08287196617019639716noreply@blogger.com